Alex Hillman Writes Here - Latest Comments in The Real Deal

Re: The Real Deal

Warwick Poole — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:10:34 -0000

Quickly, background: Alex, I've met you once briefly at National Mechanics when I was there with Matt Mullenweg. You ignored my email once and some tweets asking you to read that email too. I was trying to get a coworking space in Phoenixville going and was asking for your advice. You know, the community/sharing kind of advice. Nevertheless, I'm not in a situation where I could take on this project anymore so I've had to stop working that project. For now.

Some things about this whole saga seem off to me. And I'm no Philly tech/creative scene insider at all. I know some people vaguely, slowly trying to make more connections. And look, I'm even late to this party.

"Without my support and involvement, there’s a void in the honesty of how this event represents Philadelphia. Comments on my original post support that."

"I have to wonder if Innovation Philadelphia led them to believe that we’d be on a panel together, and if that had any influence on their decision to participate? I don’t know."

There's a debatable level of hubris in these two statements which colors my perception of other points being made in this post. There I said it.

I'm hunting for concrete details about this overpowering "top down"-edness and bureaucracy which renders the IP conference unbearable for any self respecting freedom loving independent worker. Not found a lot so far. But I'm hunting...

Also, I don't know a lot about IP. In fact I'd never heard of them until I stumbled onto this post. Probably proves your point about what they've managed (or not) to do with this money they have. But I did some quick research and it seems that IP created, or was involved in creating the Creative Economy Investment Fund. Which in turn funded DreamIt Ventures, or invested in it, in some fashion. I don't know the details. It seems to me that good things are flowing down this river. In fact I'm reading something here indicating that you, Alex, get involved with a DreamIt funded project called Anthillz? I don't see bad here only good. I want to see more of this.

So my vote would be for more conferences, not less. I'm hoping for IP to do more, not do less. And they should be free to use any format. In fact, if they want to use an overhead projector, like my 7th grade math teacher Mrs Rogers was the very first in our entire school to do, then I say go for it.

I want to see more guys in pin stripe suits listening to a tattooed guy tell them how he built a web application that is better at solving a certain problem than the Oracle solution that their company dropped eighty grand on. And those guys in the suits go to the IP conference (probably) where they can get a Danny De Vito Limoncello at the open bar. They should hear the good news right?

"The most dangerous thing in the world for me would be to think I operate in a bubble."

"He asked me one of the hardest questions I’ve ever been asked:"

Now if that's really the most dangerous thing in the world for you to think, and if that's really one of the hardest questions you've ever been asked, then Alex my friend your life is goddamn awesome. Possibly even Dangerously so.

Re: The Real Deal

Bob Cooper — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:54:44 -0000

"Life is pretty simple. You do some stuff. Most fails. Some works. You do more of what works. If it works big, others quickly copy it. Then you do something else. The trick is the doing something else."
- Tom Peters

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matthew j roberts — Sun, 13 Sep 2009 23:47:16 -0000

you're a great voice for philadelphia. keep it up. i dont even know what innovation philadelphia is, but i know who you are and i know what independents hall is, so take that for some perspective on what matters to folks looking back longingly at philly from west of city line ave.

Re: The Real Deal

Blake Jennelle — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:37:49 -0000

One last piece of advice inspired by the other commenters.

Given your feelings about Innovation Philadelphia and this conference, the key question for you is: How do you maximize the impact of your protest?

The two main choices are to boycott the conference or to speak out at the conference.

To frame the choice, think about it this way: Would Obama turn down the opportunity to speak at the Republican National Convention? I'd be shocked if he would.

If you can speak your mind directly to the people who support and fund Innovation Philadelphia, all in one place, imagine the questions you can raise in their minds -- questions they will never have to grapple with unless they read this blog or hear someone mention this conversation.

So accept their invitation and say exactly what you think about the conference and the organization, directly to the people they depend on. If you are censored or muzzled, it confirms everything you've said.

You can't lose, can you?

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traceywelson — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:55:52 -0000

Just to clarify - IP did not receive any money from the City for their budget in 2009. They have received funding from other sources, some of them private.

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myownitguy — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:41:55 -0000

Absolutely my pleasure to do so Alex. Glad it was worthy. See you 'round!

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alexknowshtml — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:30:33 -0000

Cliff,

I want to thank you for actually taking the time to address my questions thoughtfully. It means a lot to me.

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myownitguy — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:08:07 -0000

"Is it possible for me to speak at this event while still expressing my concerns?"
>>>If the invitation for you to participate still stands, and you're willing to allow yourself the option to accept it, despite any frothy brewhaha it provokes internally (in you) or your communities, I think the question you've posed actually becomes a pre-condition...meaning, the only way it would be possible for you to speak at this event would be IF you will be free to express your concerns while doing so. Whether IP would green-light this is another issue entirely. But, I am certain you would have no problem holding true to this, and would in fact make it a requirement, if you would allow yourself the opportunity to participate.

"What sorts of things do people need to hear from me in order for my presentation to be effective?"
>>> 1. Your "concerns", 2. Your perspective on "alignment" (you touch on this in the blog post above), and 3. What it means to "dare to be great. together" and how that plays into the example that co-working sets in this regard, and the role that co-working plays as one of many potential means for furthering everyone's higher purpose of building a more vibrant, robust, fulfilling, TRULY creative economy.

"What kinds of takeaways can I provide the larger community, the one beyond the grassroots, while not compromising my integrity and values, speaking openly and freely?"
>>>The community's takeaway = the remembered experience and resultant new/reaffirmed enlightenment of having witnessed Alex Hillman's uncompromising participation. If you are there, you WILL be true, you WILL speak openly and freely. But of course, if you are NOT there, it WILL be impossible to do so.

You've got so much to offer, and anyone witnessing your participation will be the better for it. I hope to see you there Alex!

Cliff Stevens

Re: The Real Deal

geoffd — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:35:55 -0000

I think everything can be summed up this way.

Be authentic.

If you are a sheep, be a sheep. If you are a wolf, be a wolf. Don't be a wolf showing up in sheep's clothing.

Re: The Real Deal

mnips22 — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:32:50 -0000

Alex, you have long been one of the many people here who had identified a need for a bus. Someone (not you) got some public funding for this bus and then asked you to help drive it, and you declined.

As you sit on the curb and watch it drive away, you are criticizing the people who got the funding, and are criticizing that it doesn't look like the bus you had in mind. The fact that you even criticize the driver - someone who works her ass off for the same cause you do - is most revealing.

Alex, if you care so much about Philly, the place to offer your ideas would have been on stage as you supported this national-caliber event, not on your blog as you try to shoot it down. Most of the people involved in this - like me - are donating their time and ideas. And every one of the active, local organizations mentioned on this page by others was invited to participate in this event.

What is the real reason why you aren't helping? Seems to me that this is mostly about local politics; not about ideas - about the ownership of them. That's too bad. That's the sort of provincial thinking that will prevent things from changing so much here any time soon. I’ve worked in the national digital market for well more than a decade now, and watched it expand and contract three times. I’ve never heard anything like this in any community I've worked in (DC, SF, Chicago, NY) until now. Bummer for Philly.

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chucksacco — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:55:12 -0000

Alex,
As a sponsor and technology provider for this event, it wouldn't be appropriate for me to provide specific arguments pro v. con. However, I respect your views and think you doing a lot for the tech community by getting people to think and speak their views about this topic. I'd just like to state a few personal views:

Never turn down a chance to take the pulpit whenever you are offered an opportunity, especially when you can reach a new audience.

Don't make it about what's wrong with someone else's approach, but always make it about what's good and right with your approach.

When you can, always leverage someone else's marketing efforts to get your message out.

Go wide my friend. It's break-out time for the Philly tech scene and we all need your help to get/stay on the national map.

Chuck

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alexknowshtml — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:04:19 -0000

As the guys below pointed out, I was focusing on event models.

And if you're concerned about ego, take notice that I only mentioned IndyHall once in the entire post.

This argument is coming from me, NOT from IndyHall and I made that clear. Members and supporters of IndyHall have individual voices, and I consciously made a decision not to represent those in this post.

I've never been a part of the team behind Ignite or Barcamp. Ignite came from my business partner Geoff DiMasi's team at P'unk Ave along with the some people from other groups like the Hacktory. It's always been produced by them, I've only ever been a participant and an advocate.

Same with BarCamp. In fact, I made it a point for the first 2 years of me being a part of this initiative NOT to be the BarCamp guy. Ask JP Toto what I said when he came to me to ask me questions about BarCamp in Philly, after having experienced a BarCamp in Orlando (a very popular one, multiple years in a row).

I said to JP, "THANK GOD! Someone's going to do a BarCamp!". It NOT having anything to do with IndyHall and instead being championed by JP and Roz Duffy was a huge relief to me, and that moment became a cornerstone in my mental roadmap for Philadelphia's tech and creative scene, where new leadership began to emerge from within.

I also only included events that I'm directly related to because they're the ones I know the most about. I wanted to make sure that everything I was citing could be substantiated either by external sources, or a very specific experience I've had.

You also make it sound as if I don't have support for Philly Startup Leaders, an organization that you co-founded and have grown in a big way over the same historical trajectory as IndyHall.

I was honored that you'd include me in your board of advisors along side a dozen + representatives of Philadelphia's leadership, both institutional and grassroots. Being involved in that is a lesson in itself, one I'm grateful for, and an opportunity to observe the interactions and motives of the individuals helping support the leadership team of Philly Startup Leaders.

Re: The Real Deal

Phil Ives — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:04:05 -0000

Alex, Why not talk on this exact topic on the panel? You could use this as an opportunity to "dare to be great. together" and have "Philadelphia win" This blog connects to the audience you already know and their audiences. Why not take your ball and glove to their field and speak passionately about how the creative scene works here and if government wants to foster it, what your ideas for how that could work are.
This is an opportunity for everyone to win and for Philadelphia to look great in the process.

my 2 cents.
-Phil

Re: The Real Deal

alexknowshtml — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:49:06 -0000

You're missing my point, Blake. It's not that they're copycatting events, especially models like Barcamp and Ignite that weren't founded here. These models are intentionally open, welcome to copying.

Think about this: BarCamp Philly was held last year, had close to 300 attendees and dozens of sessions. More than one of those sessions spawned an entire new special interest camp.

It's the intent with which they're copying them that makes a difference.

*Like it or not, intent affects the execution.* <--from the post above.

My sadness and worry comes from the fact that they're using models that are part of the reason Philadelphia HAS made a mark as a ventilator for their own barely-breathing organization.

People besides me (and you) invest immense amounts of their volunteer time to make worthwhile things happen in Philadelphia. Those people don't do it for money, or recognition.

I haven't jumped into the money discussion yet because again, I don't know what I don't know. My hope is that somebody who DOES know can speak up and share facts on consumption and production.

Re: The Real Deal

joenorton — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:47:32 -0000

Matisse might have a real problem on his hands if that art student is funded by Philadelphia taxpayers. If the art student is able to afford better canvas, finer brushes, brighter paints, and have government funding to put all his works in a massively expensive gallery which dwarfs Matisses own.

Edit: D'oh! Just read Cera's comment, if IP is indeed entirely privately funded then this makes my above analogy null and void.

HOWEVER, since they are pursuing (kind of) the same end as many of the grassroots groups the economic argument can be made that any private funding they receive is by it's very nature private funding that is not going to the grassroots groups.

Example: If IP is fishing in the same pond as PSL, Ignite, Barcamp, Indyhall, etc. etc. then it means there are less fish for these other groups to catch. Perhaps IP catches a fish and doesn't do anything meaningful with it (like trades it for nice boardroom chairs) whereas perhaps the grassroots orgs. are more efficient with how they use their fish (like use their fish wisely so they 'go farther' and allow for more funding of events).

Re: The Real Deal

Chris Cera — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:28:53 -0000

I don't know enough about politics or economic development to know whether or not IP Philly's existence is a net-gain or -loss for the region. I think it's worth exploring, but I don't think any of us can easily assert either way. They are now privately funded, so IP Philly is a different beast 2009/2010. Maybe they will build great things, maybe they will die next year, who knows.

You think the organization has employed some nefarious tactics, and therefore rebuke the conference they are hosting. I respect that decision, but I haven't scrutinized everything you cited yet to form an opinion yet on those tacticns.

I think events like this are good for our region internally and externally. Internally we grow our relationships, and externally we establish thought leadership. Commercial events/conferences blur the lines b/w Top-Down / Bottom-Up since they recruit many local volunteers.

I don't think IP Philly promoting themselves for using unconference formats is a big deal b/c it's not much different than claiming that they came from Barcamp. Unconference formats existed well before Barcamp (OpenSpaces is one reference, probably much earlier than that too).

I think the dilemma of most non-profits is that they spend X resources on program services, and Y resources on existing (e.g. financing, revenue, etc). This is entirely different than a volunteer operation, and so it makes them easy targets.

Disclosure: I co-founded a company that received investment capital through a fund founded by, but managed separately from, Innovation Philadelphia. The fund was established from private sources (like a VC fund). You can still hate on me though :-P

Re: The Real Deal

Blake Jennelle — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:17:24 -0000

You're underestimating yourselves if you're threatened by Innovation Philadelphia copying your ideas.

Is Matisse threatened when an art student tries to copy his works? Not at all. He knows that if his work is great, this is inevitable.

If anything, attempts to copy him only elevate his work. They fall short, even to the untrained eye. In doing so, they help highlight what makes the original so rare and powerful.

Innovation Philadelphia can copy our formats and they can take over one of our hangouts for a night, but that doesn't mean they have produced anything resembling what we have produced.

Give your works the credit they deserve. They are powerful and durable, and their magic is subtle. They aren't going to surrender themselves so easily.

Also keep in mind that we didn't event the Ignite format or the BarCamp format here in Philly. We took them from others as a starting point and made them our own.

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klee — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:42:34 -0000

In the words of Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters, Innovation Philadelphia may know 'where it's at but they don't know *what* it is'.

About three years ago (right before Alex wrote about 'Dare to be great. Together'), I first met Alex at CreativeCamp. Kristin Motta, the organizer and an amazing brilliant confident individual and young co-founder of a successful creative talent firm, introduced Alex, an amazing brilliant confident individual with piercings. Of all the presenters that day, Kristin was most enthused about Alex. How he was going to talk about coworking. How it was awesome. I don't remember the details of what he said - it's been too long - but I do remember how passionate this kid Alex about coworking, a simple but not easy concept. And how Lauren Galanter, in a flash of shouted inspiration came up with the perfect name.

I tried lamely to connect Alex with my commercial real estate contact but that fizzled and went nowhere. A year or more passed and I remember being flabbergasted to read in the Philly Inquirer's business section about the grand opening of IndyHall. I had underestimated Alex. So many people have ideas but so few individuals can execute. I went to the grand opening to tell him that and congratulate him and he remembered me (wow).

I feel that Alex has always known 'what' coworking and a sustainable technical community/culture. I mean, three years ago, he was fired up. Maybe he's mellowed in his old age :)

I've followed Alex and IndyHall's trajectory from a distance. How Alex connects with like-minded individuals in Philly and *outside* of Philly. How he inspires and motivates creative individuals to become more business like and the other way 'round. How he isn't afraid to get something going.

Around the time of IndyHall's town meeting to discuss the expansion to 2.0, I remember starting to hear that IndyHall and Philly were a model for coworking and the like. Didn't every technically-credentialed city have a cashflow-positive coworking space that connected people and a sustainable technical culture and community? I guess I had taken IndyHall and Philly for granted. At the same time, I felt that is still much more potential to be realized for IndyHall and Philly - that it is not grown up, there is still a lot of talk vs action. And Alex and the community are iterating and moving towards it (with or without the support of government and quasi-government organizations).

Perhaps another reason Alex chose not to speak at GCECS2009 (what a mouthful that name is) is because he realizes that IndyHall is much bigger than him now. That he is not Mr. IndyHall (maybe that is Dana V. :) ). It's not just Alex that knows 'what' coworking and community is now.

Kevin

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geoffd — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:20:35 -0000

I could not agree more, Dave.

Thanks for writing this so I didn't need to figure out the best way to word this.

This is really not about being together or not. It is about the reality that Innovation Philadelphia has been absent from the scene that it could have been supporting but was not and still is not.

Personally, I don't really care if Innovation Philadelphia is co-opting the ideas and work of others, because I know that the scene will come up with new ideas and create new organizations. I do know this... if Innovation Philadelphia is doing these types of things... it is time to move onto the next thing!

Glad we have their attention, and glad they are taking over this work from us. Now I can spend my time solving some other problem.

Geoff DiMasi (in case my user name is not clear enough)

P.S. The new shit we are working on is so rad. You are going to love seeing it at the Global Summit in 2015 (and/or drop me a line if you want to get involved now.)

Re: The Real Deal

Dave Martorana — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:16:07 -0000

Hey Blake!

I don't think Alex is leaving out those organizations. The organizations Alex does mention are the ones whose ideas and formats are basically being ripped off by the GCECS2009. The pecha kucha sessions exist in the form of Ignite Philly, the "unconference sessions" are borrowed from BarCamp, etc. The conference touts new styles of interaction, but none were invented by IP.

Reading the "about" about the GCECS2009 is like reading a list of the events that this community has put on for years now, without a $225 price tag, and without any mention of Innovation Philadelphia - which is where IP SHOULD have been all these years.

In no way is it a "too little, too late" thing - it's entirely a "this is not the real creative community" thing. Philadelphia's creative community is the one that created or organized PSL, MakePhilly, Ignite, Refresh, BarCamp, and yes, often use National Mechanics as a secret lair, without a drop of a $2.5m investment from the City - and yet PSL, MakePhilly, Ignite, Refresh, BarCamp, IndyHall, the Hacktory, Hive76, etc., are the grass-roots organizations and communities that have reshaped Philadelphia over the past 2-3 years - a movement that Innovation Philadelphia has been almost completely absent from.

Re: The Real Deal

Blake Jennelle — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:43:12 -0000

It's always good to hear your insights Alex, and there are plenty here. Thanks for sharing them.

I want to share a frustration I had reading this and some of your earlier blog posts. When you cite examples of what's is causing the remarkable change in the Philly tech and creative scene that we've seen in the last two years, you seem to focus on the same set of organizations that you are involved with and leave out others like Philly Startup Leaders (PSL), MakePhilly and the Hacktory.

PSL, MakePhilly, and IndyHall were all born in the same year and, together, had an enormous role in creating today's Philly creative movement. They have inspired (and even groomed) the leaders of some of the groups and events you cite more often.

There's a danger that as our ecosystem grows, it becomes parochial and divided. Innovation Philadelphia operates in a radically different way than our grassroots groups do, and one can certainly argue that these differences make us incompatible.

That said, I worry that this same judgmental thinking may be causing the grassroots groups in our community to drift apart from one another, often over differences in style that are minor by comparison.

There are many right ways to be grassroots, and it's extraordinarily healthy that we have so many different approaches here in Philadelphia.

"Dare to be great together" is a powerful motto for our community. But togetherness requires openness and tolerance, and we're losing this amidst all this critique and judgment of one another.

The good news is that there is a new opportunity for leadership - towards the openness and tolerance that helped bring this community to life in the first place.

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rozduffy — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:15:53 -0000

As someone actively involved in both attending and organizing events that rely on small amounts of sponsorship from the community or else no sponsorship at all, I'll admit that I was both baffled and dubious as to why there was a $25,000 sponsorship option for this conference. On top of that, there is a pretty steep attendance fee that is actually excluding people from attending. It's hard to justify that in a city where there are so many interesting events available to us for free or at minimal cost.

I'm really curious to see what new elements of the community will emerge as a result of this conference. I feel pretty strongly that the biggest changes happen when you get people together in a room or space and see what happens.

Whether people like what you have to say or not, it's admirable to stand strong for what you believe in and open yourself up for feedback. I respect that you took the time to craft your response and find your voice.

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Lachlan Hardy — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:03:25 -0000

Right on, Alex. I feel your pain.

In the work we do with our communities, one truth keeps coming up again and again:

"In the absence of moral leadership, there are plenty of amoral fucks ready and willing to take the lead."

Now, I don't know anything at all about how Philly really works or who these people are, but this sounds to me like an evolution of that concept. There is moral leadership (your good selves in the community of awesomeness that you love) but another group is taking things up to the next level, where a vacuum could be perceived to exist by those used to working on that level.

My questions would be:
- Does a starfish need that level?
- Do you need to turn things up a notch?
- Or does what you're building work perfectly well where it is?

Re: The Real Deal

gloriabell — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:10:54 -0000

I refrained from commenting on your last post because a few others had already expressed the same thing that I was thinking at the time. This time, since you specifically asked for comments, I'm going to jump in with my opinion. Anyone who knows me, knows that I feel as strongly and passionately as you do about developing and nurturing communities. As strong as we are as individuals, we are stronger as a community. That said, I also believe that we have to reach out to those with different perspectives and be inclusionary when we try to build those communities. We can not affect change only standing on the outside complaining about "the establishment".
I don't disagree that Innovation Philadelphia may not have the best track record. What I think we do need to look objectively at is the steps they are currently taking. Maybe they are not the same ones that we would take in their shoes, but credit has to be given to the attempts. We have to acknowledge that not everyone does things the same way. It is a difficult task to reach across multiple levels and cultures and try to find the common ground that will bring them all together. I believe that is what Innovation Philadelphia is trying to do with the Global Creative Economy Convergence Summit. It is also one of the reasons I am proud to have accepted their offer to speak at the Summit. It needs to be looked as an opportunity to reach out to many different viewpoints and cultures and spread what we know and believe. Whether we agree with everything that Innovation Philadelphia has done up to this point, if nothing else, the Summit is an opportunity for those of us who know and love this city and the diverse communities that reside here to show it off.
Alex, you are correct when you state that your role as a community leader is to bridge the gap. The gap that is only being encouraged by the "us" vs "them" mentality that seems to be growing in this city. (And to be honest, that was encouraged by your last post) It is possible for us to stand our ground without violating our beliefs and still find ways to spread the word about what we believe in. Sometimes, it means stepping inside the world that we may not agree with and reaching those who need to hear the message. Sometimes it means even speaking that message in their language. That is not a compromise of our beliefs, it is being smart enough to know that somewhere inside that world that we choose not to reside in, maybe there are others who need to hear our message to open their minds and ideas and give them the fuel to begin to initiate change.
You asked if it was possible to speak at the event while still having reservations. Of course it is, you let your track record speak for itself. What you stand for is demonstrated by your past and future behavior. You let your message and your actions speak for themselves. Anyone who would think you are violating your principles by agreeing to participate in an event like this, doesn't know you very well or doesn't believe in what you say you stand for - Daring to be great. TOGETHER

(Not to shamelessly plug my own blog, but I think I made a fairly relevant related point recently in a post entitled "Community or Clique." http://asseenthroughmyeyes.... )

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IIlllIlIIIIllllIlII — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:08:47 -0000

Forgive my naïveté, but is IP got $1M for a budget, what are they doing with it besides holding this conference, paying a staff, and making the city government feel better? I bet if Bar Camp Philly wanted to it could solicit enough donations to get some great speakers for the event. In a different conntext Alex said "bootstrap, bootstrap, bootstrap."
I'm wary of big money.